Why The Curb Stomp and not the Punk Kick?

Hello everyone, I have an interesting question.



I always asked this question, but it didn't really started getting to me until a few weeks ago during the ending of the Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins Match on Raw.



But anyway, due to concussion awareness, the WWE has decided to do away with Randy Orton's punt kick. But yet Seth Rollins finishing maneuver goes from a knee strike attack to a curb stomp where he uses his foot to foot to jam his opponent face into the mat. Now Dean Ambrose on raw a few week ago got curb stomped through a couple of cement bricks, and the Curb Stomp by itself is dangerous; And 10 times as much dangerous forcing someone's face through concrete slabs.



But the main focus of this thread is I want to know, do you think WWE should re-inforce the punt-kick or do away with it. Honestly I think WWE should be it back, it really showed the true sadistic nature of Randy Orton's Heel Side, and helps him garner even more heat. I have nothing against the Curb Stomp, but I think it's not right to enforce a move that can also cause concussions and a broken neck as well, and due to concussion awareness and the safety of the wretlers you ban the punt kick. If you gonna have one, why not have them both.



But anyway, it was something interesting that I wanted to ask and to get others opinion and insight on it. So what you think?

The Importance of Weaknesses

Both WWE and TNA have champions that could arguably destroy pretty much any other professional wrestler in the world, regardless of promotion. Both are huge, athletic, with strong wrestling backgrounds, and knowledge of how to fight. How do you beat a guy like that?



Sometimes an 'exceptional performance' is enough to defeat a 'better' athlete but when the gap is too big, what then? This is why weaknesses need to be worked into a character. Guys like Daniel Bryan have obvious weaknesses, their size, and a guy like John Cena may have a lot of heart but he has very limited technical wrestling knowledge (plus, we've now seen what happens when someone even BIGGER comes along).



For a guy that seems unstoppable, there needs to be a chink in the armor. Bobby Lashley, for example, is definitely entering the prime of his career, he is physically almost impossible to stop, but what does he lack? Mic skills. Someone being able to get into the head of Lashley could be his weakness, someone who can piss him off so badly that he has so much anxiety over it that he isn't performing up to snuff, he is making mistakes, and an exceptional performance by his opponent can see him lose it all.



As demonstrated, weaknesses are what allow for interesting stories to develop. Someone fighting against the odds and finding a way to take down their more impressive adversary can make for very compelling television. And this is why David vs. Goliath matches work so well.



Brock Lesnar is unstoppable, he destroyed the guy most people can't even beat, now what is the rest of the roster supposed to do? A little guy may be the least likely to be able to stop a monster but they are also the one that everyone will get behind the most. Especially if there is a glimmer of hope. For Lesnar it would easily be overconfidence, a problem that has fell many empires throughout history, and a problem Lesnar would understandably have given how dominant he has been. It only takes three seconds or slipping into a bad situation to see Lesnar lose a dominant contest, look at how Frank Mir managed to defeat him in a legitimate fight, and it is that kind of weakness that makes wrestling so interesting.



Wrestling thrives on 'at any time, given the right circumstance, ANYONE can lose'. Even a 'weak' champion is booked like they are in a cycle of overcoming the odds until people begin to wonder if anyone can defeat them. There is a hole in every game, no matter how good, and while wrestling fans are caught up in 'who will beat them', I think the real fun is in finding out 'how'. How can anyone topple the giant? How can anyone overcome the strategists gameplan? How does anyone overcome the odds? Wrestling in a nutshell.

WZCW UNCUT! The New WZCW Podcast!

That's right folks, one half of the world tag team champions and the man with the voice that makes the ladies chuckle and their knees buckle is hosting the newest incarnation of the flagship Podcast concerning all things WZCW!



Now with the fantastic job my successor Kermit did I can't promise you this will be as polished, that I will be the gracious host he was, but what I can promise you is that this podcast will be the most edgy, hardcore, and unbiased views and opinions of the current happenings in our Fed!



-We'll tell you what we like!

-We'll tell you what we don't like!

-We'll tell you what you should and shouldn't like because we're fucking awesome!



And what do I mean by we?! We'll of course I'll be having my co-host join me in the festivities. But who is that co-host? You'll just have to wait and find out!



What I can clue you in on is that the first show of this new generation of podcast will premiere on Wednesday, September 3 at 6:30 PM Central time! Be there or be square! Or triangular, if you're into that sort of thing.



In all seriousness I hope you'll join me for the first show, hopefully it won't suck. Link and guest announcement coming soon.

Selling the Network

After just recently making a post in a thread about having a more mature-style PPV in the WWE, it got me thinking: "What are some shows/ideas that could help sell the Network better?"



In the thread, I basically suggested that having a weekly, late-night, more adult-oriented wrestling show could help entice new older viewers to subscribe. Nothing too crazy, but something that clearly differs itself from what we generally see. Maybe have it come on from 11-12 Tuesday night or something? I don't know their current schedule because I live in Canada and do not have Rogers.



But what are some other shows that they could put up to make the Network worth buying? Not older stuff from their archives, but full-on new shows you can only see via the Network. Maybe a "Cribs" style show, where the wrestlers give you an inside look of their home & how their lifestyle is outside the ring.



Another idea could be a full-on WWE anime. Have certain wrestlers play the antagonists, and others play the protagonists. Throw in a power-boosting object (akin to the Sacred Jewel shards, the Philosopher's Stone, etc.) that the antagonists are trying to get in order to become extremely powerful/immortal/maybe rule the World. Or have them already be in possession of it, plunging the World into darkness, and the heroes have to try to stop them to make the World a better place. Lots of fighting, some really emotional stories, and a few character kill-offs to really get the feels going.



My final pitch for now could be a fitness show, where each episode consists of a wrestler going through his/her usual work-out routine. They could show you what they do, how to properly do all of it, how often they do each given routine, what they eat to keep in shape, etc.



What do my fellow wrestling fans think? We need to sell the Network with some original content. How do you feel about these ideas? Do you have any of your own? Discuss.

What smartphone do you have?

Simple question really. What smartphone do you have? Are you Team Android or Team iOS? I just recently purchased a HTC One M7 and love it so much. The phone itself is awesome but what I really like about the phone are it's front speakers. The sound coming out of this phone is great. I think the display and cameras are underrated as well. I was going to purchase the HTC One M8 but it's easily the priciest Android phone right now so I decided to go with the M7 since it was cheaper and you can't really spot a difference between the two.



So again I ask, what smartphone do you have?

Brock vs Cena at NOC

How would you book this match? I am assuming Brock will win but in what manner? If Cena runs him really close then it somewhat takes the shine off Brocks summerslam performance, if Brock beats down Cena again where does that leave John? It will be interesting to see how they book it.

New Japan Pro Wrestling launches European Online Store

UK wrestling fans are normally expected to drop their trousers and bend over when it comes to buying merchandise, particularly since SilverVision.co.uk died for our sins, but this seems almost - dare I say - reasonable.



http://ift.tt/1na1b9m



Now I just need to reconcile my total indifference for the Bullet Club with my adoration of their t-shirt.







I suppose I do quite like AJ Styles.

Was Jake the Snake Roberts the greatest heel in WWE history?

I had to post this thread in honor of WWE hall of famer and wrestling legend Jake the Snake Roberts with all this stuff that he's going through with his illness and another stop to the hospital.



Many wrestling fans say that the Million Dollar man Ted Dibiase was the greatest heel in WWE history. But I would beg the differ on that. Fans have to remember the timeline during the Hulk Hogan era. And remember in that era Jake the Snake Roberts was a big factor in that era. Jake the Snake played his heel role as a natural! He made you feel like he was legit evil and pretty crazy. Only guys like Jake Roberts and Terry Funk can do it so well!



But after Jake the Snake left the WWF after Wrestlemania 8 he had a stint in WCW. But returned to the WWF in '95/6 as a born-again christian playing the face role. But after that run that would be the last time that we would see Jake the Snake Roberts until RAW 2005 on Chris Jericho's "Highlight Reel" featuring Randy Orton. But now in 2014 the Snakeman is back once again! And is now a WWE HALL OF FAMER! Which is longggggggggg overdue.



But back to the question though. Was Jake the Snake Roberts the greatest heel in WWE history? And let's all keep Jake the Snake Roberts in prayer people? We can't lose another legend in 2014 or ever.

Who needs the win more, Jack Swagger or Bo Dallas?

This has been a fairly entertaining rivalry, in my POV anyways. Swagger has been constantly losing, and Bo Dallas has been sticking it in his face. The question is here, who really needs the win more? I believe Swagger needs the win after losing to Rusev several times and taking a loss to Cesaro. Bo Dallas can just be an annoying heel, he doesn't need a real loss, but who do you think needs this win?

Mature Themed PPV

I have been thinking about this for a long time. Since there is obviously a lot of support among fans for a return to an attitude era type or at least a TV-14 oriented product, what if WWE produced a PPV each year specifically aimed at this audience?



They are heavily marketing themed PPV's as of recent years with shows such as Hell in a Cell, Elimination Chamber, Money in the Bank, etc. Even when they were TV-14 they produced a more mature PPV which was ECW One Night Stand. That show garnered a TV-MA rating. It's entire selling point was extreme violence.



I think it would be awesome if they could do just ONE PPV per year aimed at this theme(TV-14 not TV-MA, although would be awesome!). Perhaps it could be Extreme Rules since the basis of that show is no-DQ type matches. Or maybe it's a whole new one. Just have one show that is TV-14 and allows them to get a bit edgier and violent for one night. I would love to be able to see Dean Ambrose let loose. His character screams to be in an edgier environment.



The WWE Network has parental controls to block content based on rating. I really think it could work if marketed correctly. Any thoughts?



EDIT: I think I should have titled this thread "Edgier Themed PPV". Thinking about it now, Mature seems a little misleading considering there is such a thing as a TV-MA rating.

Kurt Angle's Brilliant Take on CM Punk

When Kurt Angle appeared on the Ross Report he made some interesting comments about CM Punk and part timers.



The 4:30 minute portion of the interview can be accessed here http://ift.tt/1qfXXpt



Angle said if he could have talked to Punk before the bottom dropped out with WWE, he would have counseled Punk that there may come a time when he may want to be a part time wrestler. Essentially, Punk as a full timer should have been more understanding of the fact that big name part timers bring value. If Punk was willing to work hard as a full timer for a few more years, he could have had the option to go from 215 matches a year to a select few.



Angle's concluding point was if Punk was going to wrestle his entire career as a full timer, he had the right to complain about part timers getting the limelight. But if Punk ever planned on reaping the benefits of a part time deal in the future, he had to accept the plush positions of the part timers of today.



Do you think CM Punk should been a bit more forward thinking? Perhaps he could have figured, "If I stick with this, I may get deals as sweet as Rock's, Brock's, and Batista's down the line."

Things were better in the past boo hoo

Why do people like to say they stopped watching WWE/TNA at a specific year as if it is a badge of honour in discussing about said promotions?



Come on just admit you still follow the product and don't distant yourself from it by drawing a line where you think it is acceptable to still watch it.

UFC 177 LD - Over/Under 100k buys??

Who's in to watch this abortion?

Is Professional Wrestling behind the times?

In the age of endless information and digital media, essentially every single industry in the entire world has been affected by technology and a rapidly expanding online/global community through social media. WWE is no exception to this trend that most TV companies have suffered through in that audiences are becoming much more empowered and choose which content they want to watch or not.



Very few people are actively attached to television shows these days. No one makes an event out of watching a TV show. No one sets aside time to view a certain program (with the exception of actual sporting events). People watch what they want when they want because they now understand that there is a slew of other content on the internet and all over on demand sites like netflix/hbo go/Hulu.



My point of this is that WWE has not exactly done a great job adapting to this new way of business. It's no secret that the company is not exactly thriving financially and even though the WWE network could be commended as a way to engage this global community, I would argue that the logistics of the network and its bumpy rollout were not effective enough.



The mainstream appeal of wrestling has diminished significantly over the last decade or so (which is apparent because it's a big deal when wrestling gets mainstream attention nowadays)



Vince McMahon has always been old school in that he has always adopted the "My Way or the Highway" attitude when it comes to his overall brand and product and he does not understand that the consumer has an IMMENSE amount of power in today's business and media culture. While this is something I think Triple H understands a little bit better, the WWE is still suffering from their inability to realize this sooner I think. So I ask you this:



Is WWE doing an adequate job engaging their modern audience?



Is there anything else they can do to improve the audience's interest in the product?

Bray Wyatt ... Only half buried.

A lot of people think Bray Wyatt (and the Wyatt Family) were buried on Raw by Cena (and then with Show and Henry by his side, later). While, I agree, Wyatt was made to look pretty week DURING the show, which could be considered a 'burial' by Cena. He wasn't fully buried, if you look at the whole picture.



Consider this: Brock Lesnar destroyed Cena at SummerSlam and Cena isn't seen for a full week in WWE. Cena comes back a week later, he has no bandages or apparent ill effects to the beating of his lifetime he took just a week earlier.



He proceeds to have a strong match against Wyatt where he basically is putting the same sort of beating on Wyatt that Brock put on him and he even gets to hit his finisher to end the match.



It looked like that was supposed to be the best beating Cena could put on another guy. But guess what? Wyatt was back wrestling just 1 day later on SmackDown (even kayfabe, he was back 4 days later) wrestling Reigns fairly evenly in the first match and showed no ill effects of the 'beating' he took.



So, that's why I say Wyatt was only 'half buried' by Cena. If he as really fully buried by Cena then he would have not been 'able' to compete later in the week on SmackDown and/or he would have had bandages showing the effects of the match he had with Cena.



So, do you agree with this analysis? I know Cena fans won't be too happy with it but it's WWE Creative's fault really. They lack continuity and believability a lot of times and this was one of them.

Do You Want Batista To Return?

It's no secret that Batista didn't receive the warmest of welcomes from WWE fans upon his return to the company early this year. Fans made no bones about not wanting to see Batista vs. Randy Orton at WrestleMania XXX for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship or Batista winning the title whatsoever. Plans were changed because they ultimately had to be, Vince looked like he was completely out of touch with what & who fans were interested in and Batista's glorious return ultimately comprised jobbing to Daniel Bryan and The Shield.



Batista left WWE after the Payback ppv in order to begin work on promoting Guardians of the Galaxy. Soon after, various reports began circulating about Batista's unhappiness with his return, that he wasn't booked the way was initially supposed to be, that it was supposed to be different, etc. Some reports say he didn't wanna job to Daniel Bryan 2 ppvs in a row, which is why Kane went against Bryan at Extreme Rules, while other reports say he had no issue jobbing to Bryan. So who knows what the real story is?



PWInsider.com released a report earlier today suggesting that Batista MIGHT be willing to return to work a WrestleMania XXXI program in a retirement match against Triple H. The report says that there's been no word on whether or not it's a direction WWE will be moving in. It's still a long way off, so anything could develop between now and then.



Personally, I've ZERO interest in Triple H vs. Batista, yet again, and I don't think I'm alone in that opinion. I don't think the notion of these two being given so much time to build a match between them at WrestleMania XXXI will be any more appealing than Batista vs. Orton was this year to most fans. Fans didn't want one of the top matches of the biggest show of the year to be between two guys who feuded throughout the late 2000s, nor do I think they'll want one of the top matches for next year's biggest show to be a "retirement match" between two guys who began feuding all the way back in the mid 2000s.



I can understand Batista being disappointed by his last run in WWE. I mean, I can't blame the guy as it'd only be natural to be disappointed by how it turned out. At the same time, I also think that Batista needs to realize that it isn't 2005 anymore and that the opinion of a LOT of fans aren't the same. When it comes to promo work, in-ring ability and fan interest, there are a lot of younger guys on the roster that are just flat out better than Batista. If given a preference, fans are more into Bryan, Punk, Ambrose, Rollins, Reigns, Ziggler, Cesaro, Wyatt, Harper, Rowan, Swagger, Rusev and some others in the spotlight. Fans have moved onto younger and fresher faces more so than the nostalgia of a 45 year old wrestler turned actor who many feel was never all that good in the first place.



Besides, there's a strong possibility that Batista's acting career is taking off. Guardians of the Galaxy is, domestically, the highest grossing movie of 2014 with $262.1 million as of yesterday. Worldwide, it crossed over the $500 million mark earlier this week. To top it off, critics are in a full out love fest over the movie. As a result, Batista's no longer gonna be someone that'll be in indie films or straight to DVD low budget action movies. Which means, major studios are gonna be looking at him, which means he has the same problem as The Rock. Major studios are going to be hesitant to hire him for a big project if he insists on wrestling, even every so often, considering the risk of injury he'll be taking.

Ambrose Needs A Better Finisher

The Headlock Driver is a pretty decent move, but as a finishing maneuver, it seems odd to me and lacks a bit of "oomph." If you had the power to give Dean Ambrose a new finishing move - assuming that you would even give him a new finishing move - what would it be? I vote for resurrecting Jake Roberts' DDT. I love the way Roberts could grab an opponent out of nowhere and take them down head first with the DDT, similar to the Diamond Cutter and RKO. That kind of move imo would fit Ambrose's character to a T, seeing as how he's supposed to be this crazed-lunatic who can strike at any moment (backstage sneak attacks and whatnot), and the notion that you won't be getting back up if he can just manage to hook his arm around your head and neck and bring you down into the DDT out of nowhere sort of exemplifies that.



I think a good way of introducing it to the fans and making the first steps to conditioning them to accept it as his new finisher is to have him DDT Seth Rollins onto a pile of cinder blocks. Just using it to drive Rollins' head into a pile of bricks automatically makes the move look devastating, and if he continues to use the move as his finisher from here on out, people will quickly get the picture and follow along.

The Monday Night War

Sorry if there's already a thread for this or if this isn't the right area.



I recently watched the Monday Night War DVD for the first time in years but I just have to say watching it again I didn't really like it. It's very one sided towards the WWE (kind of understandable in a way) but for me it's very much WCW was evil for doing this and that. It effected the poor WWE ya da ya da. Vince McMahon and the WWE have to be the biggest hypocrites on the planet, WCW did many things that WWE had already done in the past themselves. Plus were it not for WCW and the nWo they never would have had the Attitude Era etc. Don't even get me started on Gerald Brisco, what an butt kissing prick he is. Anyway rant over just wanted to know other people's opinions on this DVD. I just felt it rewrote a lot of history and was full of hypocrisy.

Rusev is going to fizzle out....

If they don't figure out what the fuck they're going to do with him. He's beaten Swagger several times now in the last month and Jack seems to have moved on to a feud with Bo Dallas, so it's safe to say that's over. He took a quick beatdown from Mark Henry a couple of weeks ago but that seems to have been dropped so he and Big Show can feud with the Wyatts (so why have him smack Rusev around in the first place?) A logical step for him would be to step up to Sheamus for a US Title shot but that's been given to Cesaro because reasons.



What can they do to get Rusev back on track before they squander the heat he has?

NCAA College Football 2014 - LD

With the 4-team playoff and an elevation in competition in non-conference play, this year adds even more to the pot when discussing college football.



As a bit of an icebreaker, let's put down our 4-team predictions for the first playoffs in division one college football.





1. Florida State

2. UCLA

3. OU

4. Alabama



The last two are easily interchangeable with a team(s) from their own conference. OU with Baylor, no one else is sniffing the playoffs (unless maybe K-State, if they go undefeated). Even then, OU or Baylor will most likely have to go undefeated to gain admission. However, there could be a scenario where they could drop a loss to one another and still get in (albeit, very unlikely). Alabama is easily interchangeable with whoever wins the SEC championship. I don't see the SEC cracking two teams this first year.

When Cena breaks Flair's record...

...tears of joy. Tears of joy, streaming down my face.



I actually think it would be an entertaining storyline. Cena in his quest for true greatness looks to surpass Flair's record.

WWE Night Of Champions: WWE United States Championship - Sheamus (c) VS. Cesaro

The US title match for NOC has been officially announced. Cesaro's defeat of RVD earlier in the week put him in the #1 contender's spot, so he's getting his shot at the next ppv.



In all honesty, Night of Champions is gonna be all about Cena vs. Lesnar and few other matches are gonna feel all that relevant. With that being said, this should still be a very physical, entertaining match. They've had some great matches earlier in the year, one of which was for the title at the Payback ppv.



Both guys have been at something of a standstill for a while, Sheamus especially. All in all, Sheamus has been stuck since returning from the injured list early on in the year. I'd personally like to see Cesaro win the title as a means of WWE beginning the first real steps in initiating his push, that's reportedly on the way, but I see Sheamus ultimately retaining.

Remember When...

Far too often, we - the IWC - focus too much on the negative and not enough on the positive. I think we sometimes forget why we're fans. We let our disappointment with the current product cloud our vision and we become far too jaded for our own good. I'm hoping this thread will help us remember...if only for a little while.



So I want to know...what are those moments that you go back and watch and they send chills down your spine? What moments make you remember why you became a fan and make you yearn for more? A match, a promo, a package. Anything.



I'll go ahead and start us off with something small. I absolutely love the old desire videos from early the 2000's. They give you a touch of the wrestler's personal lives and show you that they're a fan and that they love what they do.

Matt Hardy Models A Great T-Shirt

I am something of a connoisseur.

Should Hulk Hogan wrestle one more match? My opinions: He shouldn't do it anymore

This is my opinions.



Would you let your father wrestle again in this condition?



First off I'm not bashing on anyone who wants to get in the ring, I'm just like everyone else I respect the hell out of Hulk Hogan. He's the man who made WWE and Wrestlemania to a global phenomena.



We never may had the chance to watch Wrestlmania shows today on TV - and todays wrestlers may never would have been millionaries because of Hulk Hogan.



All real fans respect that, respect the history and respect for all that he's done. He's the man who made it what it is today. He made WWE and Vince filthy rich.



But... seeing Hulk in that ring, in that state he is in. I think it's unfair and the nostalgia factor that drives all the people.



He's seriously hurt as hell, sometimes, he could fucking barely walk. He has done nothing more then sacrificed his whole body, and his whole life to this business.



Why does he do that?



Because he loves you, us, the fans. He loves to hear the people scream one more time, when he says: "This business is my life, and I gave my life for this business"

he's not kidding, he loves the fans, he loves wrestling deeply.



But what does that make us, bringing him out and screaming: "HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN!" do we want this man to be crippled because the fans just want a match out of him time after time?



We need to remember Hulk for what he gave, just craving one more match and seeing the man get seriously hurt in that ring would be devastating for the sport.



Imagine the headlines if he got hurt, it would be a blow to this business as well, and the fans would probably feel bad for craving one more match.



I'm not saying I knows best for what he should or shouldn't do, Hulk can only do that.



I just think we shouldn't crave so much from him, or one more match, because he already gave everything had.



The man have 9 back surgerys. 9 fucking back surgerys!!!

+ Hip replacments... Kneereplacements...and the list goes on.























And his ex-wife, she was a fucking bitch that took half of his money.



He's s basically coming back for everything that ever loved him and stood by him in his career.



He gaved everything for this business, but he don't need to do this.



I'm not saying I decide, but I'm telling you all I don't think he should.



And I'm saying that with all respect I have.



This is not how we should remember the granddaddy. The man who made WWE to what it is today.



Would you let your own father wrestle in this condition? I know I wouldn't.



Hulk has already given us so much.

Hulk Hogan one more match? All the fans are craving it, but I thinkhe should'n do it.

This is my opinions.



Would you let your father wrestle again in this condition?



First off I'm not bashing on Hulk or anyone who wants to get in the ring, I'm just like everyone else I respect the hell out of Hulk Hogan. He's the man who made WWE and Wrestlemania to a global phenomena.



We never may had the chance to watch Wrestlmania shows today on TV - and todays wrestlers may never would have been millionaries because of Hulk Hogan.



All real fans respect that, respect the history and respect for all that he's done. He's the man who made it what it is today. He made WWE and Vince filthy rich.



But... seeing Hulk in that ring, in that state he is in. I think it's unfair and the nostalgia factor that drives all the people.



He's seriously hurt as hell, sometimes, he could fucking barely walk. He has done nothing more then sacrificed his whole body, and his whole life to this business.



Why does he do that?



Because he loves you, us, the fans. He loves to hear the people scream one more time, when he says: "This business is my life, and I gave my life for this business"

he's not kidding, he loves the fans, he loves wrestling deeply.



But what does that make us, bringing him out and screaming: "HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN!" do we want this man to be crippled because the fans just want a match out of him time after time?



We need to remember Hulk for what he gave, just craving one more match and seeing the man get seriously hurt in that ring would be devastating for the sport.



Imagine the headlines if he got hurt, it would be a blow to this business as well, and the fans would probably feel bad for craving one more match.



I'm not saying I knows best for what he should or shouldn't do, Hulk can only do that.



I just think we shouldn't crave so much from him, or one more match, because he already gave everything had.



The man have 9 back surgerys. 9 fucking back surgerys!!!

+ Hip replacments... Kneereplacements...and the list goes on.























And his ex-wife, she was a fucking bitch that took half of his money.



He's s basically coming back for everything that ever loved him and stood by him in his career.



He gaved everything for this business, but he don't need to do this.



I'm not saying I decide, but I'm telling you all I don't think he should.



And I'm saying that with all respect I have.



This is not how we should remember the granddaddy. The man who made WWE to what it is today.



Would you let your own father wrestle in this condition? I know I wouldn't.



Hulk has already given us so much.

MITB Ladder matches- the good and the god-awful.

I was watching MITB 2014 the other day to serve as amusement during my meal(I don't have a TV and the only things I can watch are downloaded stuff or wrestling promos on youtube).



I watched the MITB match for the contract first, obviously because that match preceded the main event MITB ladder match for the vacant WWE WHC.

I haven't really watched MITB matches from 2013, or many others in the past, simply on account of my decreased interest in wrestling and the lack of "specialty" because every other Joe had seemed to be thrown into those matches. (The Miz, for instance).



The match consisted of Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, Kofi Kingston, Rob Van Dam, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins (I hope I haven't forgotten anyone else) and was amazingly choreographed and executed from start to end. I think Rob Van Dam was the best showman of the match in offence and Seth Rollins the best showman when it came to taking the most amount of falls on ladders and beatings. The match was coherent and told a story- Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins. The only anticlimactic aspect was Kane's direct involvement in Seth's ascension to the ladder and withdrawal of the briefcase. Excellent match nonetheless.



Then I watched the second MITB match . With 8 huge stars and 5 former champions, it felt like the match should've had only 6 candidates and I really felt like Sheamus wasn't needed in it, nor Alberto Del Rio. It's awful how indifferent the audience was during Sheamus' entrance but then what has that fella done that would make one want to cheer or boo him! ? To sum it up, the match was everything that is Anti-Ladder match and Un-entertaining, unless you liked the Roman Reigns grimaces and John Cena's usual lousily done 5-knuckle shuffle. I understand that all these guys are super heavyweights and not really showmans such as Rob Van Dam and Kofi Kingston. But even then, the match lacked coherence and choreography. It seemed like a bunch of kids played that match on their XBOX or something. Whereas Dolph Ziggler , RVD, Rollins and others gave so much , which is what a MITB match should be, here we had John Cena with his usual 5-knuckle shuffle !!! But what else do you expect from John Cena? The very fact that John Cena decides to participate in a MITB match should be warning enough about its low quality. And then you had Kane who's not exactly as agile as he was in 2005.



The conclusion is that whenever a MITB is entirely comprised by heavyweights, and lousy and semi-athletic wrestlers like Bray Wyatt, John Cena, and Roman Reigns, the match is going to be below mediocre. I do think that combat between Sheamus and Cesaro providing something mildly exciting in that match , but it was simply no match for the previous MITB match.



To what extent do you agree? How did you find this match? What other MITB matches in the past do you think were very awful and why?

Who should be next in a feud with Triple H?

With a AWOL CM Punk on the road to Wrestlemania 30. Daniel Bryan took Punk's place in what was suppose to be a Wrestlemania match between CM Punk and Triple H. Of course Triple H doesn't wrestle full-time anymore due to him working backstage in the WWE office. But Triple H did have a decent feud against Daniel Bryan. So, who should be next in a feud with Triple H?



There was talk of having Roman Reigns feud with Triple H heading into Summerslam. But that task was pasted over to Randy Orton. There are alot of hot young talent that hasn't had the honor to face Triple H in the ring yet and now may never get the chance. Were in a new generation of WWE superstars now. Guys like...



-Roman Reigns

-Bad News Barrett

-Bray Wyatt

-Dolph Ziggler

-The Miz

-Big E

-ECT



They have enough to go toe-to-toe with the game. So really. Who should be next in a feud with Triple H?

From Point A to Point C; WWE's Rushed, Unplanned Creative Mentality

WWE does not use "Point B". Over the last few years, it's become clear that WWE's creative team doesn't delve into details for their storylines like they used to. Wrestlers will pick beefs with each other by interfering and distracting each other in their matches. Championship matches are set-up by the champion losing to his latest rival cleanly in an earlier non-title match. If there's not much focus or interest on the feud and it's just to patch a PPV card, it's extremely formulaic and predictable.



They want success. NOW. That's not that surprising to the experienced viewer though. We see it all the time how they'll bring in a new character. A new concept. If it doesn't seem to catch on right away, they scrap it or change it.



It seems Adam Rose is the latest victim of that mentality as he debuted in NXT on March, was hyped for Raw on April and was on WWE TV by May. 6 months later, we hear WWE has lost interest. Apparently, he wasn't over. Well, no shock there. Debuts, his first feud was built around, you guessed it, distracting someone in his matches. Jack Swagger in that case. And then what? Well, WWE didn't plan that far ahead. If that's not a great example of WWE's lack of hindsight, have you heard of "WWE Cheap Pop's"? A Youtube video they uploaded parodying WWE TV in a MAD-style cartoon short. In a day it was taken down. Apparently the Shocked Undertaker Fan from Wrestlemania's head exploding was too much. In other words, no one gave this a proof-watch and went straight up the website.



But lately, even their better efforts have plotholes. For one, I can't get over the insanity that was The Shield's dissolution along with Batista "quitting". Let's recap:

Click for Spoiler:

Batista quits, Triple H "has a plan"

• Triple H proclaims he won't stop until Shield is done.


• Batista objects saying he wants his title match with Daniel Bryan.


• Triple H says no and drops the ol' "adapt or perish" line which makes me cringe when he says it.


• Batista quits.


• Triple H reassures Orton there's a "Plan B".


• Later in the night, we learn "Plan B" was Seth Rollins.

So let me see if I got things straight between Evolution's dissolution. Batista quit....... Because Triple H did not bother to inform him about his plan. Batista wanted his title shot but Triple H said no because he wanted the Shield done for first. Which was already happening because he had a mole. So why was Orton aware, but not Batista? Ah, who cares. We got to the point which was Seth Rollins turning heel. Which opens up another one. Why did he join Triple H if he, along with his "buddies" were making a total mockery out of them?

Click for Spoiler:

Seth develops a random superiority complex. And joins the people he was beating up with ease.

Yeah, he's Mr. MITB. Yeah, he's an established heel now. He's got a good feud going on. But where's that missing link of detail? Seth's superiority complex popped up out of nowhere. He joined Triple H months after turning on him realizing that he was being used. "Ah, why worry about details, foreshadowing and character development like a regular TV show would? The money comes in Point C so we'll go straight to that as fast as possible and hope it sticks". Glad it did stick otherwise Seth would probably be on NXT on the 4 Way title match for Takeover II. OK, maybe that's exaggerating.



There's loads of other examples of it. Jack Swagger's face turn was clearly not planned anywhere past a match with Rusev. Cesaro had a major Wrestlemania moment but.... "Well that's all I got. I just hope he gets over". And of course Nikki Bella channeling her inner Kane by harboring a lifetime of hatred and then bursting out with an evil plan of vengeance that completely ignores how we got to Nikki vs Brie. It was Stephanie, the person Nikki just sided with, antagonizing Nikki in case you forgot like WWE did. I wonder if Vince Russo is now doing the "secret consultant" shtick with WWE now that he got kicked out of TNA?



One of my hobbies is creative writing for e-fed here, WZCW (which you should totally fucking join!). Me and 6 other dudes chat about what fictional stories we want to do and we put details into them to flesh them out for a minimum of one PPV cycle. We do our best and it's obviously not professional work by any means. But if we plan something, we make sure the details are there. We make sure the logic is as understandable as possible. No distraction. No challenger pinning the champion so now he gets the shot. No repetitiveness. Point A, Point B, Point C, Conclusion. If 7 schmucks can pull out a consistent effort to have detailed storytelling for a fanfic, why can't a team of 20 professional writers, half of which have from years to a full lifetime of experience in the field, do it? Is the rush of instant success that overwhelming that it blinds the desire for detailed storywriting? Or do WWE just simply think we're too dumb to notice? Ratings do seem to point to the latter. But I certainly notice. And it's pushed me away from WWE TV. KB's reviews are how I keep up with WWE's happenings and just look up the interesting stuff on Youtube or Hulu+. I prefer NXT, TNA and AAA as of late. You know who the heroes and villains are. Why they are how they are. Their motives with details. And champions aren't getting pinned weekly or do matches end with a distraction. And these are supposed to be the B-products.



Do you notice?

Favorite Up and Comer vs Legend Match / Feud in WWE History?

I was rewatching Unforgiven 2003 on the Network and ran into this little gem i forgot about: Randy Orton vs Shawn Michaels!

The whole story was Randy Orton, with Evolution backing him, had started targeting and "killing" legends for the last few months, including Mick Foley and Shawn Michaels. This lead to a match at said PPV where Orton tried to use Shawn as a Stepping Stone.



that got me thinking.... the passing of the torch, future vs present/past, to be the man you got to beat the mean, and all those saying reside in the whole young up and comer taking a crack at the established veteran to become the guy. and which was your favorite?



Brock Lesnar vs The Rock at Summerslam 2002 was a great example as well. Brock came in, destroyed everyone in his path and then met the great one at the main event of summerslam with the Undisputed Championship on the line



Bret Hart vs Stone Cold at WM 13. Steve Austin was on the rise and Hart was already an all time great. This submission match took Austin to the next level as far as popularity and toughness goes..



Thoughts?

Injuries as a Blessing in Disguise

When have you seen an injury as blessing for that superstar or a different superstar to 'replace' or step up, so to speak.



For example, when Austin seriously injured his neck in '97, to keep him on TV but not active, he was always cutting promos leading up to the stunner on McMahon. If he was never injured, who knows if Austin vs McMahon would have been a thing.



Shawn Michaels less than a year later having serious back injuries opened the door for HHH to lead DX. I think he still would have risen to the top eventually, but maybe not nearly as quick with Michaels in the picture



Most recently, Daniel Bryan. Now this is just me making assumptions, but I think he's the reason why the Shield broke up much sooner than I would have liked. It's pretty obvious that all 3 are being pushed to the moon now, with Rollins as MITB winner and already main eventing with Ambrose on Raw. Reigns is slowburning to main event status.



So real simple, when do you remember an injury helping out that particular star or opening up opportunity for somebody else?

What new gimmick would you give Mojo Rawley?

I've been watching NXT for a fairly long time to reach this conclusion.



I don't get the hype about Mojo Rawley.



I'm not doubting his in-ring skills or his look (physique, face-symmetry etc.)



I just don't see the gimmick as something that a mid-carder could use to sustain his popularity as a long term WWE/NXT superstar. He also seems to be booked inconsistently, being used as fodder for Rusev and then being dominant on a match the next week. It's only fair to think he could do better with a new gimmick that can appeal to the fans.



What gimmick would you give him?

Stone Cold is a bigger star then The Rock and Undertaker just had his streak

IWC hating so much on Stone Cold these days. Just because he's beat his wife and left WWE.



It's mostly The Rock and Undertaker, Shawn Michaels fans and some Bret Hart fans hating on Stone Cold.



Stone Cold is a star and til this day he's bigger then The Rock, The Rock is still in his shadow. And I can just lol at all IWC saying Undertaker is bigger then Stone Cold. :shrug:



What has Undertaker done that is bigger then Stone Cold? Being good in the attitude era? Who's Undertaker? He's just an old man that has a streak, can you really compare that Stone Cold? :lol:



I think when all you people say that The Rock is bigger star right now then Stone Cold you should read the facts.



Stone Cold was selling out arenas, in almost a decade, 10 years or so, and was the biggest moneymachine in WWE.



Stone Cold was like popculture figure like Hulk Hogan. Even if he career was a little bit shorter, he is a world known name.



Stone Cold was still popular even if he beat his wife, even if he retired the year after or that people didn't know he was still bigger then The Rock at 2003 and was getting bigger pops. :lol:



All you IWC hating on Stone Cold saying his heel turn flopped and that momentum destroyed wrestling. Yes so his heel turn was not good, but he was still better then Rock&Undertaker at that time and more entertaining. :lol:



Stone Cold beat Triple H, The Rock, Undertaker, Foley, Shawn Michaels, clean.



So how can you compare The Rock and Undertaker with Stone Cold? The Rock was never a star like Stone Cold, and Undertaker was just an old man having his little streak at wrestlemania.

What do you think about CM Punk fans who still chants CM Punk like little girls?

CM Punk is one of the worst wrestlers of all time. He even drew one of the lowest rating in WWE in 15 years...



Lowest rating in 15 years(!) that's incredible. I almost find CM Punk boring and very stale, and I didn't get the hype he was getting 2011 just because a work, a promo. But it's easy to get hype in the PG era because of all the crap it has.



CM Punk became "cool" because he was anti-cena. Hell, I don't like Cena, but the reason CM Punk became popular was because of Cena. CM Punk own his career to Cena.



CM Punk was extremly boring and he looked like shit in the end. Fans screaming his name is just ridicolus. Would those people scream for their girlfriend if she leaved?



CM Punk babies for me, is these new kids who like to write "tittymaster" about Dean Ambrose and are new marks for wrestling. Most kids, 12-23 years old, who has'nt watch wrestling that much and started to watch in mid 2000, the majority.

Mark Madden is the worst commentator in the history of the business

Easily.



I'm watching some late era WCW on the network and he is just unbearable. Looking back at it, I was about 10,11 years old when WCW folded and I became a fan in '97 with the Sting/Hogan angle. I always loved Tony Schiavone and Heenan on commentary but after Heenan left things went REALLY downhill very fast.



I'm of the opinion that commentary is one of the most important aspects of a successful match/show and Mark Madden ruined alot of shows for me, even as a little kid. His voice itself is like nails on a chalkboard but combine that with his constant self-promoting and all the "insider" terms and little "shoot" jabs at everyone ( which you can tell he thinks are just the most clever and cutting-edge of comments) and it's just a melting pot of garbage.



Bottom line, he's the drizzling shits. Has anyone ever actually been a fan of this guy ?

Who is WWE's best seller?

And how in Gods name is it Rusev?



Just rewatching the Summerslam match, he does it perfectly without overdoing it like someone like Ziggler.

Different GM every championship.

What would you guys think of having a different General Manager in charge of the Championships instead of actual shows now that there is no brand split. For example.

The Authority in charge of booking the WWE Championship.

Edge and Christian GM for the tag championship - coming up with contenders and creating tag teams.

Sting and Shawn Michaels GM of the US & Intercontinental Championships.



I'm not saying this is a great idea, just something that could be played with and to think about. I quite enjoy this idea because of the diversity of each segment.

The Authority would be as they are now, Edge and Christian would bring a lot of humor, Sting would bring a lot of prestige back to the US Championship and Michaels who would have the work horses and the "smaller wrestlers" compete for the title.



Cheers.

Jake Roberts hospitalized

According to the front page



http://ift.tt/1wLtCnH



WWE Hall of Famer Jake Roberts was hospitalized yesterday after passing out on a plane, en route to Las Vagas for an independent show being put on by Sinn Bodhi (former WWE star Kizarny).



A PWInsider.com report confirmed by Diamond Dallas Page is stating that Roberts has double pneumonia, and that according to doctors his lungs are filled with fluid, and a mass was found on his brain. Sinn Bodhi tweeted that he has been at the hospital all night with Jake, who is resting, but still in critical condition.



I hope he's well soon.

A Note on Daniel Bryan's Future

I read in another forum here that Daniel Bryan will probably be buried upon his return. This poster will feel they've been proven right, because Bryan will lose more than he wins once he's back - but it doesn't mean he's getting buried.



Think about it: since he left, WWE have been making an effort to push new stars and build for the future. All 3 members of The Shield have got and will continue getting big support from the office since Bryan left, and the current golden goose John Cena was demolished at Summerslam. The clear message is that a new era is dawning in WWE.



So when Bryan does return, he'll be massively over with fans and will be in big matches. But he'll be doing the job more often than not. Why? Because WWE don't see him as the future. Right now he's a hugely popular superstar who guarantees good to great matches 100% of the time. So once he returns, he'll be giving the rub to anyone and everyone WWE thinks could use it going forward.



But fellow DB fans, Bryan being utilised as a star maker doesn't mean he's being buried - it shows they understand how valuable an asset he is, and know that the rub he can give to others is highly valuable to the company going forward.



Who's with me? Thoughts? Rebuttals?

A Full Time Role for Hulk Hogan?

We've all read the rumors that WWE is trying to come up with a full time role for Ric Flair. So why not a full time role for Hulk Hogan? Hogan has even gone as far as saying he's "praying" WWE uses him more. Do you think a full time role for Hogan is a possibility? If so, what's the best way to use him?



Personally I'd love to see Hogan as the Raw or Smackdown GM. I've grown tried of The Authority, there needs to be some balance, Hogan could provide that.

Would Vince have made it without Hogan?

Lets take it back to 1984 for a second. Let's say Hogan never even got into wrestling or he stayed in Japan, either way He was never with the AWA and He won't be with the WWF.

Now lets say you're Vince McMahon, you still have the idea of going National you just need a star to take your company there. Now realistically with there being No Hogan Flair is by far the biggest star in America alongside Dusty Rhodes due to their relationship with the NWA their is no way their leaving. This still leaves you with an incredible talent pool of stars to choose from.



Kerry Von Erich, Macho Man, Rocky Johnson, Paul Orndoff, Rick Martel, Stan Hansen, Ted Dibiase, The Freebirds, David Von Erich, Greg Valentine, The Road Warriors, Vader, Ricky Steamboat, Jerry Lawler, Terry Funk, Jimmy Snuka, Tommy Rich, Magnum TA. This may look like a list of members in some wrestling Hall of fame somewhere, but, this happens to be a list of guys who were in the territories drawing big (as big as you could get in the territories) houses night after night. Do you think anyone could have been the guy if Hogan was never around?



I feel like it could have been done. As great as Hogan was I think Vince is equally responsible for the boom that happened when the WWF went national. I feel that Vince would have been smart enough to get an established act over.



The easiest way for him to do this would be to look at who was the hottest at the point in time and without a doubt in my head it would have been Kerry Von Erich. He was on fire at this point in time and Vince would have took that fire and threw gasoline on it.





What I want to know from you guys is do you think that the WWE would have made it without Hulkamania?



who would you have used to make it the global phenomenon that it is today and why would you pick that person?

Would McMahon have worked for Bischoff?

I highly doubt it myself..



However, after watching the current Monday Night War Series on the WWE Network (for $9.99 a month) I've been thinking a lot of 'What If's?'



We all know that Bischoff was employed by WWE for quite some time after the War was over and WCW was long gone.



To be honest, if WCW had won the war and the WWF had gone out of business, I find it hard to imagine that there would actually be any main stream wrestling on TV at all. I believe WCW would have eventually screwed things up anyway.



So, in a hypothetical universe, if McMahon decided to never work for WCW, then perhaps instead, he would have salvaged the company after the inevitable happened.



People moan about today’s product a lot, but I sometimes think we should be thankful that we have any pro wrestling at all. WWF and WCW could've quite easily destroyed each other, rather than one being the victor over the other.



But as far as McMahon ever working for Bischoff? - I think the guy has way too much pride and is way to stubborn to have ever (hypothetically) done that.

He'll Be Ryback

Get well soon, Big Guy. :'(

WWE Cheap Pops

Ok the Cena closet bit was hilarious.



And so was Scuba Kane.

Vince Russo FINALLY explains why he put the title on himself!

Someone asked What the hell was the point of giving yourself the WCW Championship on his AMA and this is what he responded:

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Because I'm a total mark and the first words I ever spoke when I came out of my mother's wound, was that one day, I was going to be the WCW Champion. And all through pre-school and kindergarden and grade school and high school, that dream never left me. My whole intention of getting in the wrestling business in the first place, was to become the WCW World Champion for three whole days. That's why I even started at the WWE. I knew I wasn't good enough to be the WWE Champion, but if I just could get some experience there, then MAYBE, just MAYBE, I could fulfill my destiny of being the WCW Champion. And it was only by the grace of GOD that my dreams were fulfilled and I was able to hold that WCW title high above my head and say, "I did it!" At that point in time, my life was complete.

I think this AMA made me jump on the Russo bandwagon. I can't help but love all his answers.

Dewey Barnes released

Post memories here.

Name your Survivor Series dream team.

Just a fun sort of fantasy thing I thought of and wondered who people would choose. You can go with 5 or 4 member teams and combine wrestlers from any era.



I'm going with the traditional 5 and they would be.



Hulk Hogan - How could you not pick the most legendary wrestling superstar ever, he can Hulk up and turn the tide when he's tagged in.



The Big Show - I had to make a choice here between Andre The Giant and Big Show because I want a mammoth to back up the team and be hard to eliminate even by some of the best wrestlers. I went with Big Show because I think he was always a bit more agile than Andre.



Kane - With the number of times he's been a tag team champion, I had to give him a spot. He's shown he can win tag matches with almost any partner and not only is he big and tough but he's a team player and survivor series matches are tag team matches after all.



Chris Jericho - A smart opportunist with good speed as well as technical ability. Jericho perfectly fills the void left by monsters and brawlers like Hogan and Big Show.



Alberto Del Rio - I just want to hear Ricardo Rodriguez announce their victory.



How about you? Do you have a survivor series dream team to trounce mine?

No interest in Kurt Angle?

Now this is mainly in response to reading a article like this...



http://ift.tt/1sGDFnz



In which is says WWE has no interest in Kurt Angle returning in a in ring capacity, or maybe at all. The issue I have are mainly the common ones, matches between Angle and Daniel Bryan/Reigns/etc would be great, but I feel like if WWE really has no interest in Angle then they are missing perhaps one of the biggest chances to build a new star.





Right now I feel that Kurt Angle would be an amazing in a fued with Rusev. I mean think about it, Lana and Rusev keep going on with their anti-America promos as usual and then out comes Kurt Angle an Olympic Gold Medalist and form world heavyweight champion to fight him. I get that they tried the same thing with Swagger but the problem is Swagger has zero credibility anymore and he hasn't in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time. Kurt Angle on the other hand would have all the credibility needed to really build Rusev, and could be seen as a legit threat to Rusev's undefeated streak, not saying he would end it but he would be someone we can believe could end it.



I can't really be the only one who would like to see this fued, and frankly I don't even like Rusev all that much but I still can't help but feel that is Swagger got the kind of response he did that it would be a much bigger response as well as do a great deal more good with Rusev to be in the fued with someone on Angles level as oppose to Swagger.



Do you guys feel that WWE should bring back Kurt Angle to help build Rusev or do you feel if he comes back he should stay in fueds with guys like Bryan/Ambrose/Rollins/Reigns/Cena/Lesnar/etc?

What was your favorite Rob Van Dam match?

Rob Van Dam is once again finishing up another run in the WWE this week until another deal is made for RVD to return, if he returns at all. Some wrestling fans think that Rob Van Dam should just retire from wrestling. RVD is in his 40's but still looks in great shape for a guy who has the munchies on a daily bases. During Van Dam's last run some wrestling fans has labeled RVD as "Job Van Dam" since he's been jobbing since after his return the night after Wrestlemania 30, mainly to the reborn Seth Rollins. But in your opinion in the wrestling history of Rob Van Dam in ECW, WWE, WCW (as Robbie V), and TNA. What was your favorite Rob Van Dam match?



Mines personally would have to be...Whenever he had a match with Jerry Lynn. Talk about EXTREME RULES! But what about yours?

Why are you a fan of Roman Reigns again?

Roman Reigns was a star even before the Shield broke-up. Reigns being from a family of wrestlers including his cousin the Rock. Roman Reigns has a great pedigree. Post the Shield break-up Reigns now has a stage to shine on by himself as a single's star. And has stood out as a breakout star. Heads in the WWE are already talking about Wrestlemania plans for this guy. Reigns is a made man being in the drivers seat!



I like Reigns because he has something to prove to the WWE. Being he's more than just the Rock's cousin and his father's (WWE hall of famer Afa) son. I mean did you see his performance at this past years Royal Rumble match? He set a record that night in eliminations beating Kane's old record. And he's already getting put over in the media by wrestling legends as "the future of the company". And that says alot in the era of John Cena!



But, why are you a fan of Roman Reigns again? Really?

Best and Worst feuds of 2014 (so far)?

Even though I often complain about what the WWE is doing, I will admit that it has provided plenty of epic confrontations this year. Here are some of my favorite feuds.



- Swagger Vs Rusev: While I'm getting annoyed at the cop-out endings, I have enjoyed the majority of their fights and even the storyline that accompanied it. This seemed like a compelling- but stupid and cliched- idea at first, but when they started facing off, I was totally into it.



- R-Truth Vs Bo Dallas: Admittedly I'm probably alone and I'm not even sure if this really counts, but I personally thought it was hilarious when R-Truth defeated the streak because who would've expected it? This feud was more funny than compelling, but it made me laugh.



- Daniel Bryan Vs the Authority: This made me glad that Batista won the Royal Rumble, even if it made that event seem wasted in retrospect. I liked how the writers made the 'hijacking of the show' from the fans as part of the story-line and when Bryan conquered, it really meant something. The matches were really good too, although having Bryan feud with Kane was a petty weak follow-up.



- The Shield Vs The Wyatts: It annoys me that this wasn't fleshed out more, as the fans were totally into this confrontation. It lead to an awesome face run by the Shield and the matches were awesome too.



But here are some of the worst feuds of the year, in my opinion.



- Daniel Bryan Vs Kane: I was okay with this at first as I was grateful that they were trying to do something interesting with Kane, but then I learned that this feud recycled a lot from an earlier storyline involving Kane and Cena and...It was pretty dumb. The attempts at creating a horror film out of it were unintentionally amusing and Bryan being scared of Kane made so sense as he overcame him in nearly all of their confrontations.



- Adam Rose Vs Jack Swagger: Whereas Im not sure what would be THE best feud of the year, this likely would be the worst. It was embarrassing seeing Swagger humiliated in every single confrontation, not helped by the fact that I dislike Rose.



- Cesaro Vs Jack Swagger: This was bad on a writing level because it derailed Cesaro's impending face turn and bringing in RVD undermined the bad blood between the two.



- Fandango Vs Summer/Layla: The entire love triangle sucked and this sucked so badly that I started to root for Fandango because the girls were acting more like heels by that point.



- Batista Vs Alberto del Rio: Batista squashed del Rio. Was it even a feud?



Honorable Mentions



- The Shield Vs Evolution: Evolution didn't win enough battles and they only did any damage to the Shield because Triple H abused his authority- which he was doing anyway. But the matches themselves were really good.



- Undertaker Vs Brock Lesnar: Weak finale, but I will admit that the build-up was usually effective.



- Ambrose Vs Rollins: This would be great if it wasn't for the cop-out finishes. I initially found myself frustrated at Ambrose's stupidity, but now the interferences, the cancelled matches have soured my opinions...Even though I have enjoyed their few actual matches.



- Wyatt Vs Cena and Wyatt Vs Jericho failed, but weren't terrible. His program with Cena was sloppily written and the finale reeked of backstage politics, but I admired its ambitious- if poorly executed- ideas. I don't think Wyatt and Jericho have very good chemistry and their feud makes no sense, but the matches themselves have been decent.



Anyway, what about your favorite/least favorite feuds? Am I missing anything? Henry Vs Rusev has had a strong start and I'm one of the few people who have enjoyed Cena Vs Lesnar, although it will come down to where they go with it.

Cena Fans On The IWC, How Difficult Has It Been For You?

Let me just say this isn't a hate thread at all, I don't even know if it will stay up but it's something that's always bugged me. We as a community are pretty much 95% Anti Cena. Most of us are pretty quick to make assumptions about the demographic you'd fall into and really, we're passionate about our dislike of Cena. So it must be difficult to come into a community where your favorite guy is pretty much everyone else's most hated.



So have you been targeted for being a Cena fan? Did you worry to join the community because of all the hate? Do you ever feel separated from the rest of the community?



Remember this isn't a hate thread, I'm just curious.

Admin/Mod please help me.

As a last resort, I'm making this post because I'm looking for someone that can help me with my account blockage from the disqus comment section portion of this site.



Can someone please contact me that can help me at least find out why my account is blocked? I've emailed people that i thought that may could help me, but i received no reply.



I have not done anything wrong as far as i'm aware of, so this account blockage was a surprise. The last two things i said was....

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Is it a pecker or a turtle blasting off?

That was a reply to a spammer that was constantly posting macro art.



and

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What is the network? I refuse to believe that they would tell anyone any of this except for what network it is that is wanting TNA. "The impression being given is TNA has found a new network to bring Impact to, although it’s not a very big one." im·pres·sion- an idea, feeling, or opinion about something or someone, especially one formed without conscious thought or on the basis of little evidence. Investigate this nick.. Bang down peoples doors until someone tells you something, because like everyone else, i'm very interested to know what network it is.

Please PM me.. If those are the two post that warranted my account to be block, then i think i wouldn't want anything else to do with WrestleZone.

Um, WWE's top faces of the future.... WHERE ARE THEY?

Looking at the WWE roster on WWE.com got me thinking ...



Um... WWE doesn't have many high potential top Main Event faces on their roster, even with NXT!



I don't want to turn this into a John Cena hate thread but John Cena as the top face for so long is now starting to be a big issue. If reports are true and Cena's in-ring days are limited, let's say to 1 year from now ... what options do WWE have to turn to for their new faces of the company. You can't just have one or two because in case they get injured you need at least a handful to be able to pop into the main event and ones that don't need a LOT of work (mic and ring work, as well as previous accomplishments for credibility) to move up.



Past years the top faces ranged from flip flopping guys like CM Punk, Triple H, Randy Orton, Batista, Edge, Chris Jericho, Undertaker, Christian, Jeff Hardy who were all well-established and ready to go to the Main Event (as some where there already). Now, there NEEDS to be a new wave. Too many old guys and not enough new guys with accomplishments.



Here's the list of all the Superstars, I think could be possible believable top faces along with a brief analysis of their situation:



Batista

He could be a top face but not long at all, in fact, he may not be back at all.



Big E

Still a lot of work for him to really be a TOP Main Event face. Needs to work on mic skills, needs to show more moves and, obviously, connect with the crowd more. Until then, he can't be used as a top main event face.



Big Show

Too old, too much damage to credibility to be top main event face for any length of time.



Cesaro

He has the potential. But he's been hurt with Creative almost working against the fans who want to cheer him but he's portraying a heel. I do think to become a top main event face he needs better ring attire (less old school, try full tights) and better entrance music, bring back The Swing and he has a chance!



Daniel Bryan

Obviously, he is established now. He can be a top main event face, but he will always be in the underdog spot. But the issue is now he is injured and out for a least 3 more months and maybe more so, yes, maybe he is one of the top main event faces of the future, but he will likely be in a Rey Mysterio-like role where he has to go up and down from top to mid card through out his career in WWE because he's not going to be believable as always a top contender for the WWE title all the time.



Dean Ambrose

So here it is. In my opinion, WWE's best potential top main event face, in the making! He's already got all the tools, great mic skills, great ring skills and a great look! He's a jacked up muscle freak but he's tall enough to not be laughed off and he's 'crazy' enough people can believe he can beat anybody because he doesn't know any better.



Ok, so, assuming WWE don't mess him up. Here is 1 top face for the future.



Dolph Ziggler

I'll be blunt. Don't see him being a top main event face for any long length of time. I see him popping up every once in a while because his great in-ring selling ability but mostly I think he's also been around too long, with too many losses that he can't be a top main event face of the FUTURE.



Jack Swagger

He actually has the size to be believable in the top main event face role but too many losses really hurts him and even with Zeb as his mouthpiece I don't think he'll ever get back to the main event aside from a few short stints here and there. Aside: I do think he'd be a great face for the crowd to get behind on a US or IC title hunt.



John Cena

He is the one reason why WWE needs to look for new top faces because he won't be around forever wrestling, maybe less than a year, and if the WWE and Cena don't start helping to put over new faces (and heels), when Cena goes, and especially if it happens earlier than they planned, then they are going to be hurting!



Mark Henry

He's great when he really plays his part, but he's better as a top heel and anyway he's too old to be a top main event player for any regular time span.



Randy Orton

Even though he's only 34, he's been in WWE since his early 20s, so naturally, he's just a bit stale on fans. He's been a good top face before but he is much better as a top heel. And, more importantly, he's not the top face of the future.



Roman Reigns

Clearly, he is the chosen one for WWE right now. And that's actually fine. Because they NEED to build a few top faces and Reigns is a good one to try with. He does need to be a bit more engaging on the mic and show us some more of his POWER not just his agility but if he does so he'll be another 1 more top main event face WWE can work with in the future.



But so far, on this list, that only makes about 2 (Ambrose and Reigns... Bryan left out because he's at least had some main event success and championships and his future is still a little uncertain).



Ryback

Now here's a guy I think WWE has overlooked. Hopefully after he deals with whatever he's going away for a bit to deal with they bring him back with a real purpose! He CAN work as a top face. He works BETTER as a top face. Fans cheer him more than they boo him even now.



When he comes back, I'd like to see him and Axel work towards a tag title, then if it doesn't work, they squabble and leads to Axel turning on Ryback but Ryback becomes the face and they feud for a while, Ryback wins and he goes on a re-energized run, but THIS TIME, no burial by Cena! If anything, since he is a face, he doesn't have to beat Cena, he just has to save Cena and have some tag matches with him.



I don't want to see WWE push Ryback down for too much longer. They have to either give him some credibility and show he is still powerful or just let him go because it's insulting if they let him lose easy too much. Don't let him go the way of Drew McIntyre!



Seth Rollins

Rollins could work as a top main event face, similar to how CM Punk and Edge have done but, of course, with Rollins character as it is now, he's probably a good half year to a year away from turning face. I think he will, eventually, and he'll be great but it could even be a couple years down the road so WWE has to build other top faces since Rollins is doing well as the top heel.



Sheamus

He is a pretty good top face. He's big and strong and has good signature moves and that always ready for a fight mentality that usually goes over well with the crowds. He gets pretty good reactions. But, he is 36! He's also had MANY top championships so he, like Orton, can't be a top main event face of the future because his career can't be that much longer.





So, considering all that. What do you folks think? Does it look kind of worrisome for WWE's future to have top main event faces?



I can only see about 3 or 4 out of that list. Guys who aren't too old and have already begun pushes and have some accomplishments and credibility. But some of those guys would still need some tweaks and pretty quick if they needed them to be top faces, let's say by after WM 31.



Ambrose, Reigns and Bryan can't be enough.



Hopefully guys like Ryback, Cesaro and Big E will be established better and ready to make the move to top main event face, if needed after WM 31 but no guarantees on that.



I won't get into NXT guys too much, but even there, guys like Adrian Neville, Sami Zayn and Kalisto are great but will play underdogs when on the main roster and thus take a year or two at least to be considered main event caliber.



So, what do you think?



Is the future bleak for WWE and their top main event faces?

IMPACT Wrestling LD for 08.27.14 — Fall Out From Hardcore Justice!

Live Discussion for August 20th, 2014











A controversial conclusion to last week’s Six Sides of Steel Match left the

question open - Who is the #1 Contender to the TNA World Title? Both Bobby Roode

and Eric Young believe their feet hit the ground first. Kurt Angle will be making

a ruling this Wednesday night as to who gets the next World Title Match against

"The Destroyer" Lashley.



—————







Speaking of Lashley, we understand the World Champion is coming to NYC ready for

a fight this Wednesday night. Who will step forward and face Lashley?



We'll find out this Wednesday on IMPACT .



—————







Who is the greatest Tag Team on the planet? The TNA Tag Team Title Series kicks

off with a HUGE Main event as The Wolves battle Team 3D and The Hardys for the first

time ever! This first match will set the tone for this classic series. Who will

emerge victorious in this tag team dream match and grab the early lead in this

series to determine the TNA Tag Champs?



—————







Last week, EC3 placed blame on Rhino for what happened to his Aunt Dixie. This was

followed by a vicious assault by Ethan on his now former associate, Rhino. This week

on IMPACT , Rhino gets his chance at revenge in a one-on-one match with EC3.



—————







With Gail Kim successfully defending her Knockouts Title last week at Hardcore Justice,

a new top contender needs to be crowned. This week Taryn Terrell meets Madison Rayne

to determine the #1 contender for the Knockouts Title.



—————







This Wednesday, we will see the debut of James Storm’s creation… The Great Sanada.

How will this turn out for Austin Aries? Seeing as Aries is the man, aside from Storm,

who could be seen as most responsible for Sanada’s transformation, will he face the

wrath from a new evil being unleashed in TNA?



—————



The X Division will be in action as Homicide, Manik, DJZ, Crazzy Steve, Tigre Uno and

Low Ki battle it out in a six-way match.



—————







Plus you will meet for the very first time, American war hero Sergeant Chris Melendez

and hear his incredible story.



—————



All this and so much more on Thursday’s must-see IMPACT broadcast on

Spike TV at 9/8c, from New York City!

Turtle Power

It's a documentary on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It's very well done and worth checking out if you're a fan of the series and franchise.

Your legends panel

This past Monday on RAW we saw the legends panel featuring Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair (Wooooo), and Hulk Hogan. The 3 legends were debating about the rematch that will take place at WWE's Night of Champions between WWE champion Brock Lesner and John Cena. Now just think about this for a minute. What if you were a aspiring wrestler who joined the WWE and you made it to the main event scene much like John Cena. And there would be a special legends panel reguarding your WWE championship match. Which 3 legends would you want in this panel? Me...



1. Bret "The Hitman" Hart

2. Stone Cold Steve Austin

3. Ric Flair or Hulk Hogan



Those are my 3. What about you?

What now for Wyatt(s)?

After being buried by Cena on Raw, the Wyatt family seems as weak as ever. They debuted last year as the typical new guys that come in and need wins. They destroyed Kane and Kingston, but what really put the Wyatts on the map was the feud with Bryan and that masterpiece at the Royal Rumble. Afterwards we get a feud with Bray and Cena, where Bray basically lost 3 times, even though Cena fans will say that Bray won the cage match. Cena basically showed right there that Bray is a man of empty promises, who can't get the job done, even when he has 2 big guys helping him all the way. He was made a joke, and no one would take him seriously after that,and, even though I still enjoyed his promos, I just wasn't so appealed by him anymore.



He then started a feud with Jericho, which he lost the first match, which made him weak AGAIN, but bounced back at Summerslam, which was a great and important victory, since the fans and the Y2J countdown entrance gave it a special feeling.



He seemed to be on the right track to become a threat again, after he would probably destroy Y2J at NoC. But it seems that right now, he walked right into Cena and he showed that he couldn't even attack him. He was basically turned into those fat jobbers that you don't know if they will have a job tomorrow. No entrance theme, no offense hit, nothing. Just pure burial and my question is what now for Bray?



Next week he will probably continue his feud with Jericho, as if nothing happened, but how do you come out and have a promo about how you follow the buzzards and RUN etc, when you basically got wrecked by a guy who got wrecked 8 days ago? As I said, empty promises. Bray wants to save us, but is just lieing and keeps losing. Why does it matter if he eventually beats Jericho? And what does he do after he defeats Jericho? Talks were about him becoming a mid-card champ, which would ruin him even more, since he doesn't need a title for one, and then the titles are mid-card stuff, while he needs to be in the main events.



I don't know what can be done with Bray to be saved now. If I had to put a label on him right now, I would call him Cena's captivating bitch.





On another note, what now for Harper and Rowan? They seem to be getting over with the crowd, especially Harper (who is an exceptional talent in my opinion), and especially after thier match with Usos at Battleground. They basically proved they are tag champs material, yet now they have fallen back to being Bray's sidekicks with nothing important to do.



WWE, fix all this atrocity. After Lesnar defeats Cena, Bray needs to feud and DEFEAT CENA CLEAN to make up for his 4 losses. Maybe this could turn into a Cena heel turn thing by him joining the Wyatts, but that's for another time.

IMPACT Wrestling LD for 08.27.14 — Fall Out From Hardcore Justice!

Live Discussion for August 20th, 2014











A controversial conclusion to last week’s Six Sides of Steel Match left the

question open - Who is the #1 Contender to the TNA World Title? Both Bobby Roode

and Eric Young believe their feet hit the ground first. Kurt Angle will be making

a ruling this Wednesday night as to who gets the next World Title Match against

"The Destroyer" Lashley.



—————







Speaking of Lashley, we understand the World Champion is coming to NYC ready for

a fight this Wednesday night. Who will step forward and face Lashley?



We'll find out this Wednesday on IMPACT .



—————







Who is the greatest Tag Team on the planet? The TNA Tag Team Title Series kicks

off with a HUGE Main event as The Wolves battle Team 3D and The Hardys for the first

time ever! This first match will set the tone for this classic series. Who will

emerge victorious in this tag team dream match and grab the early lead in this

series to determine the TNA Tag Champs?



—————







Last week, EC3 placed blame on Rhino for what happened to his Aunt Dixie. This was

followed by a vicious assault by Ethan on his now former associate, Rhino. This week

on IMPACT , Rhino gets his chance at revenge in a one-on-one match with EC3.



—————







With Gail Kim successfully defending her Knockouts Title last week at Hardcore Justice,

a new top contender needs to be crowned. This week Taryn Terrell meets Madison Rayne

to determine the #1 contender for the Knockouts Title.



—————







This Wednesday, we will see the debut of James Storm’s creation… The Great Sanada.

How will this turn out for Austin Aries? Seeing as Aries is the man, aside from Storm,

who could be seen as most responsible for Sanada’s transformation, will he face the

wrath from a new evil being unleashed in TNA?



—————



The X Division will be in action as Homicide, Manik, DJZ, Crazzy Steve, Tigre Uno and

Low Ki battle it out in a six-way match.



—————







Plus you will meet for the very first time, American war hero Sergeant Chris Melendez

and hear his incredible story.



—————



All this and so much more on Thursday’s must-see IMPACT broadcast on

Spike TV at 9/8c, from New York City!

Turtle Power

It's a documentary on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It's very well done and worth checking out if you're a fan of the series and franchise.

Your legends panel

This past Monday on RAW we saw the legends panel featuring Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair (Wooooo), and Hulk Hogan. The 3 legends were debating about the rematch that will take place at WWE's Night of Champions between WWE champion Brock Lesner and John Cena. Now just think about this for a minute. What if you were a aspiring wrestler who joined the WWE and you made it to the main event scene much like John Cena. And there would be a special legends panel reguarding your WWE championship match. Which 3 legends would you want in this panel? Me...



1. Bret "The Hitman" Hart

2. Stone Cold Steve Austin

3. Ric Flair or Hulk Hogan



Those are my 3. What about you?

What now for Wyatt(s)?

After being buried by Cena on Raw, the Wyatt family seems as weak as ever. They debuted last year as the typical new guys that come in and need wins. They destroyed Kane and Kingston, but what really put the Wyatts on the map was the feud with Bryan and that masterpiece at the Royal Rumble. Afterwards we get a feud with Bray and Cena, where Bray basically lost 3 times, even though Cena fans will say that Bray won the cage match. Cena basically showed right there that Bray is a man of empty promises, who can't get the job done, even when he has 2 big guys helping him all the way. He was made a joke, and no one would take him seriously after that,and, even though I still enjoyed his promos, I just wasn't so appealed by him anymore.



He then started a feud with Jericho, which he lost the first match, which made him weak AGAIN, but bounced back at Summerslam, which was a great and important victory, since the fans and the Y2J countdown entrance gave it a special feeling.



He seemed to be on the right track to become a threat again, after he would probably destroy Y2J at NoC. But it seems that right now, he walked right into Cena and he showed that he couldn't even attack him. He was basically turned into those fat jobbers that you don't know if they will have a job tomorrow. No entrance theme, no offense hit, nothing. Just pure burial and my question is what now for Bray?



Next week he will probably continue his feud with Jericho, as if nothing happened, but how do you come out and have a promo about how you follow the buzzards and RUN etc, when you basically got wrecked by a guy who got wrecked 8 days ago? As I said, empty promises. Bray wants to save us, but is just lieing and keeps losing. Why does it matter if he eventually beats Jericho? And what does he do after he defeats Jericho? Talks were about him becoming a mid-card champ, which would ruin him even more, since he doesn't need a title for one, and then the titles are mid-card stuff, while he needs to be in the main events.



I don't know what can be done with Bray to be saved now. If I had to put a label on him right now, I would call him Cena's captivating bitch.





On another note, what now for Harper and Rowan? They seem to be getting over with the crowd, especially Harper (who is an exceptional talent in my opinion), and especially after thier match with Usos at Battleground. They basically proved they are tag champs material, yet now they have fallen back to being Bray's sidekicks with nothing important to do.



WWE, fix all this atrocity. After Lesnar defeats Cena, Bray needs to feud and DEFEAT CENA CLEAN to make up for his 4 losses. Maybe this could turn into a Cena heel turn thing by him joining the Wyatts, but that's for another time.